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StrikeDiamondsthebest Super Jockey (74) | Glad you think so. Give Gunna a hug from me 
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| Reg 14/3/2012 | | Posted 3:16pm, Sunday 25th March | |
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Yackety Yack RR Governer (5097) | I dunno! Twas just a pleasant surprise
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| Reg 18/2/2009 | | Posted 12:15pm, Sunday 25th March | |
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StrikeDiamondsthebest Super Jockey (74) | How is that sneaky you goof
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| Reg 14/3/2012 | | Posted 7:02pm, Saturday 24th March | |
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Yackety Yack RR Governer (5097) | You sneaky salad I thought so!
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| Reg 18/2/2009 | | Posted 9:20am, Saturday 24th March | |
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StrikeDiamondsthebest Super Jockey (74) | | Reg 14/3/2012 | | Posted 7:59am, Saturday 24th March | |
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StrikeDiamondsthebest Super Jockey (74) | | Reg 14/3/2012 | | Posted 7:57am, Saturday 24th March | |
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Yackety Yack RR Governer (5097) | Jess? Is that you! I just clicked LOL.... Strike dimonds.... barry....!!
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| Reg 18/2/2009 | | Posted 11:28pm, Friday 23rd March | |
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StrikeDiamondsthebest Super Jockey (74) | Wow that was interesting reading this whole thing....I think we should all just agree to disagree in the sense that we may not all agree with each others ideas on how to ride etc. There is no point in having a mini arguement/discussion when it is really not going to do more than -: Yellow Snow :- people off. We all have our ways of finding what works best for our horse and sometimes it is a mix of different trainings and ideas. I compete and train with a bit because it is required in most phases yet when I am casual riding Barry is either in a halter of bitless bridle. Barry is perfect doing anything either way but it is all just personal preference in the end isnt it? I definatly do not look down on any one who covers, bits or shoes because I have done so at some point for many reasons. Do what works best for your horse
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| Reg 14/3/2012 | | Posted 9:23am, Friday 23rd March | |
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AmyLoos RR Addict (1609) |
ColaAppleMuncher wrote:
I like natural horsemanship and stuff, but I hate how on these websites it says how bits are so cruel. (gasp!) and even so going bitless and stuff, the mechanical hackamore can be even more cruel than the bit to the point of breaking the horses nose if used roughly! |
We don't include hackamores in our "philosophy."
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| Reg 2/12/2008 | | Posted 9:48pm, Tuesday 30th November | |
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AmyLoos RR Addict (1609) |
Mara48 wrote:
Taihoa wrote:
there is a photo of a horses leg on that site with a bandage on, and blood coming out underneath it as if its the worst thing on earth - thats what i was talking about.
i personally congratulate all riders, and know most people do as well. i know one person who doesn't cos she is very shy - so thats fair enough.
i'm just sick of these natural horsemanship websites saying how evil we are - perhaps we should start a website showing how awful natural horsemanship can be?? |
LIKE!! |
Hahahha do it! I would love to see it 
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| Reg 2/12/2008 | | Posted 9:48pm, Tuesday 30th November | |
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ColaAppleMuncher RR Citizen (877) | I like natural horsemanship and stuff, but I hate how on these websites it says how bits are so cruel. (gasp!) and even so going bitless and stuff, the mechanical hackamore can be even more cruel than the bit to the point of breaking the horses nose if used roughly!
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| Reg 1/7/2010 | | Posted 7:51pm, Tuesday 5th October | |
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Taihoa wrote:
there is a photo of a horses leg on that site with a bandage on, and blood coming out underneath it as if its the worst thing on earth - thats what i was talking about.
i personally congratulate all riders, and know most people do as well. i know one person who doesn't cos she is very shy - so thats fair enough.
i'm just sick of these natural horsemanship websites saying how evil we are - perhaps we should start a website showing how awful natural horsemanship can be?? |
LIKE!!
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crystal=] RR Vice President (26755) |
S A R A H H : wrote:
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crystal= wrote:
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S A R A H H : wrote:
]I think you'll find wild horses and domesticated horses are actually quite different...
In the wild, natural selection occurs and kills of 'weaker' more vulnerable horses leaving ONLY the strong ones that can survive in the sort of conditions needed for their habitat. A fine example is my horse, he would have been killed off long ago if he lived in the wild, in fact he probably would NEVER have existed. His feet turn to powder if the appropriate care is not maintained. If he loses a shoe he cant do anything, he can barely move. And no, it wasnt shoes that caused this. I have traced back to his breeders and he has been this way from day 1.
Humans have invented/come across ways to 'fix' or 'better' the traits that would cease a horses existence in the wild. |
actually, horses can go for ages without showing any signs of weakness or pain, because 'in the wild' if they show any signs of weakness they will be the first to be killed cos they are easy prey. |
I didnt say that they couldnt?  |
wow sorry i totally didn't even read your post properly - sorry! 
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| Reg 14/12/2007 | | Posted 8:08am, Tuesday 21st September | |
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Lollie RR Vice President (26549) | Lil_tiga, it seems you've done a lot of research into how horses are naturally designed to live and cope, how they communicate etc in the wild, etc etc etc, and I appreciate that - I'm constantly researching the same things to improve my horses quality of life as well.
BUT, you do have to remember that half the members on here have either TBs or WBs, both of which are bred for their ability on the track and under saddle, NOT to replicate a wild horse. Half of them are bred with shitty feet that DO need shoes to cope with their work load, or very fine coats that DO require rugs to prevent them from getting too cold or being burnt in summer (for EG my grey WB mare has pink patches of skin that would get fiercly sunburnt if I left her unrugged). So to a degree, wild horses and purpose bred "domesticated" horses are actually extremely different these days.
Hope that makes sense, I got like 3-4 hours sleep last night/this morning.
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| Reg 5/1/2008 | | Posted 10:04pm, Monday 20th September | |
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S A R A H H :] RR Governer (9994) |
crystal= wrote:
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S A R A H H : wrote:
]I think you'll find wild horses and domesticated horses are actually quite different...
In the wild, natural selection occurs and kills of 'weaker' more vulnerable horses leaving ONLY the strong ones that can survive in the sort of conditions needed for their habitat. A fine example is my horse, he would have been killed off long ago if he lived in the wild, in fact he probably would NEVER have existed. His feet turn to powder if the appropriate care is not maintained. If he loses a shoe he cant do anything, he can barely move. And no, it wasnt shoes that caused this. I have traced back to his breeders and he has been this way from day 1.
Humans have invented/come across ways to 'fix' or 'better' the traits that would cease a horses existence in the wild. |
actually, horses can go for ages without showing any signs of weakness or pain, because 'in the wild' if they show any signs of weakness they will be the first to be killed cos they are easy prey. |
I didnt say that they couldnt?
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| Reg 30/5/2009 | | Posted 9:43pm, Monday 20th September | |
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crystal=] RR Vice President (26755) |
S A R A H H : wrote:
]I think you'll find wild horses and domesticated horses are actually quite different...
In the wild, natural selection occurs and kills of 'weaker' more vulnerable horses leaving ONLY the strong ones that can survive in the sort of conditions needed for their habitat. A fine example is my horse, he would have been killed off long ago if he lived in the wild, in fact he probably would NEVER have existed. His feet turn to powder if the appropriate care is not maintained. If he loses a shoe he cant do anything, he can barely move. And no, it wasnt shoes that caused this. I have traced back to his breeders and he has been this way from day 1.
Humans have invented/come across ways to 'fix' or 'better' the traits that would cease a horses existence in the wild. |
actually, horses can go for ages without showing any signs of weakness or pain, because 'in the wild' if they show any signs of weakness they will be the first to be killed cos they are easy prey.
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| Reg 14/12/2007 | | Posted 9:40pm, Monday 20th September | |
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Jenn RR Vice President (11988) | Have you ever met or delt with a wild horse?
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| Reg 25/3/2007 | | Posted 9:29pm, Monday 20th September | |
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S A R A H H :] RR Governer (9994) | I think you'll find wild horses and domesticated horses are actually quite different...
In the wild, natural selection occurs and kills of 'weaker' more vulnerable horses leaving ONLY the strong ones that can survive in the sort of conditions needed for their habitat. A fine example is my horse, he would have been killed off long ago if he lived in the wild, in fact he probably would NEVER have existed. His feet turn to powder if the appropriate care is not maintained. If he loses a shoe he cant do anything, he can barely move. And no, it wasnt shoes that caused this. I have traced back to his breeders and he has been this way from day 1.
Humans have invented/come across ways to 'fix' or 'better' the traits that would cease a horses existence in the wild.
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| Reg 30/5/2009 | | Posted 7:57pm, Monday 20th September | |
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lil_tiga Executive Jockey (475) | let me remind everyone HORSES WILD OR NOT ARE HORSES, just like dogs are dogs, cats are cats.... no matter how much you "train" "dominate" "Domesticate" whatever your technique they are always still what they are just taught to behaive a set way...
Horses STILL act like horses, no matter if they are trained or not... They still should eat the same, act the same, you cant change their natural behavious only add to them in sertin situations etc
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| Reg 12/2/2006 | | Posted 7:27pm, Monday 20th September | |
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lil_tiga Executive Jockey (475) | Jenn
"But wild horses arent ridden/competed.
It really gets up my nose when people go on with "in the wild horses didn't have rugs etc etc"
Wild horses and tame horses are two totally different animals, its barely worth comparing them."
???? they are the same they are the same animal they are not compeletly different i understand needing a rug if you want a clean horse for a comp i do it, but they are hardly differnt, that was a very ODD point to make lol...
yes they live approx 10yrs in wild but they dont get vet care or dentistly etc...
the general idea of natural horsemanship or holistic approaches is to mimic thier natural enviroment and biology ... they are not saying just leave your horse completly "allnatural" and dont tend to them etc... the stuff such as dentistry, hoof trimming and neccessary vet care and simlple feeding is required, it becomes an issue when we change their biololoy not MAINTAIN what or how they naturally are....its good for the horse mentally and physically to have the freedom to express and preform their natural behavours ... if you want to argue this point take it up with my university lectures and the number of websites, dont tell me that the company that makes the cover says bla bla bla because they just say -: Brownie :- to make you buy their poducts haha
Horses for warmth MOVE, horses needing cooling wallow in water or hide under tress, same if they need protection from the elements trees ARE their covers, there feet are taken care (if in a normal natural enviroment) by their movement over verying surfaces finding food and water, grooming is done by thier pairs, rolling, scraching on tree, their teeth are taken care by the food that the hunt for, and they believe it or not FIND different herbs for health by themselves if given a chance....
I AM NOT SAYING YOU DONT DO ANYTHING TO CARE FOR THEM... ITS JUST NOT NECCASSARYT TO CHANGE EVERYTHING, JUST MAINTAIN IT WITHOUT THE NEED FOR ADDING THINGS
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| Reg 12/2/2006 | | Posted 7:20pm, Monday 20th September | |
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