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lexilex
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crystal= wrote:

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lexilex wrote:

youl want to breed her when shes finished maturing physically...so 6 or 7 year old depending on the mare

a girl (lady really but that sounds weird) i know has a WB who she put in foal at 3. the horse is now 5 and pregnant again if i remember correctly.
and she paid ALOT for that mare just because of the bloodlines.



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Reg 19/7/2008
Posted 3:30pm, Saturday 10th July 

crystal= wrote:

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lexilex wrote:

youl want to breed her when shes finished maturing physically...so 6 or 7 year old depending on the mare

a girl (lady really but that sounds weird) i know has a WB who she put in foal at 3. the horse is now 5 and pregnant again if i remember correctly.
and she paid ALOT for that mare just because of the bloodlines.


I know someone with a mare like that.  She brought it in foal at 4-5ish (forget exact age), and it had already been bred once before that.  I wonder if it's the same person :lol:

Breeding an older maiden mare can be a lot more difficult and the are more health risks involved, so I wouldn't want to wait to long but would probably wait until she was at least 6 or so (mostly waiting for joints to do their thing).  She's finished/almost finished growing, and has a chance to start proving herself.


 
Posted 1:08pm, Saturday 10th July 
crystal=]
RR Vice President (26770)

lexilex wrote:

youl want to breed her when shes finished maturing physically...so 6 or 7 year old depending on the mare

a girl (lady really but that sounds weird) i know has a WB who she put in foal at 3. the horse is now 5 and pregnant again if i remember correctly.
and she paid ALOT for that mare just because of the bloodlines.


Reg 14/12/2007
Posted 7:26am, Saturday 10th July 
S A R A H H :]
RR Vice President (10013)
I personally wouldnt put a horse through that sort of pressure till they were at LEAST 6, probably even 7. Most horses dont fully mature until about 7 (some earlier some later) and so its sorta like a 13yr old having a baby in my opinion, theyre probably not ready for it. I know its not like humans and all, because of how different we are to horses, but I still dont think its fair on the horse. Also Missy had Buzz when she was just 6, and the vet when he came to confirm she was in foal (one day we got her out of the paddock and her stomach was moving so if it wasnt a foal we wanted to find out what the hell was wrong!) said shed had at least 1 foal before then by the looks of everything. And she actually had a very weak back, probably because of it.

Reg 30/5/2009
Posted 12:00am, Saturday 10th July 
lexilex
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youl want to breed her when shes finished maturing physically...so 6 or 7 year old depending on the mare

Reg 19/7/2008
Posted 3:16pm, Friday 9th July 
Lollie
RR Vice President (26559)

Bex+Molly wrote:


Lollie wrote:


Bex+Molly wrote:

There's two side to it tho, I know of a stud that swears by putiing it's Mares in foal before they are broken because they believe it makes them easier to deal with. They've bred some really nice little ponies too

That's kinda like saying putting a -: Female Dog :- in pup calms her down - it's not scientifically proven or anything so not a hard and fast rule :)


But their opinion is just as valuable as everyone elses, and some of the ponied they breed are really nice. Even the ones from unproven mares

I understand that, I never said their opinion wasn't valuable ;)
I still would never put a mare/filly infoal before 6/7 and I don't see the point in waiting that long JUST to have a foal pre-starting.


Reg 5/1/2008
Posted 10:57pm, Monday 5th July 
Nippy - moderator
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Bex+Molly wrote:


Lollie wrote:


Bex+Molly wrote:

There's two side to it tho, I know of a stud that swears by putiing it's Mares in foal before they are broken because they believe it makes them easier to deal with. They've bred some really nice little ponies too

That's kinda like saying putting a -: Female Dog :- in pup calms her down - it's not scientifically proven or anything so not a hard and fast rule :)


But their opinion is just as valuable as everyone elses, and some of the ponied they breed are really nice. Even the ones from unproven mares

Its all a gamble anyway. No guarantees that a well planned foal from a perfect mare and stallion is going to be what its breeder wishes it to be anyway. Fate somehow pops in a few mystery X factors all on its own.
All in all it comes down to the breeder doing what they feel is best for their mare by following the advice they feel that suits them best. I commend anyone getting out there asking for various opinions and advice then making a decision from that, that suits best.


Reg 30/3/2007
Posted 8:53pm, Monday 5th July 
Bex+Molly
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Lollie wrote:


Bex+Molly wrote:

There's two side to it tho, I know of a stud that swears by putiing it's Mares in foal before they are broken because they believe it makes them easier to deal with. They've bred some really nice little ponies too

That's kinda like saying putting a -: Female Dog :- in pup calms her down - it's not scientifically proven or anything so not a hard and fast rule :)


But their opinion is just as valuable as everyone elses, and some of the ponied they breed are really nice. Even the ones from unproven mares


Reg 3/7/2008
Posted 7:36pm, Monday 5th July 
Lollie
RR Vice President (26559)

Bex+Molly wrote:

There's two side to it tho, I know of a stud that swears by putiing it's Mares in foal before they are broken because they believe it makes them easier to deal with. They've bred some really nice little ponies too

That's kinda like saying putting a -: Female Dog :- in pup calms her down - it's not scientifically proven or anything so not a hard and fast rule :)


Reg 5/1/2008
Posted 11:20pm, Sunday 4th July 
Proud SB Owner
RR Governer (6133)

Bex+Molly wrote:

There's two side to it tho, I know of a stud that swears by putiing it's Mares in foal before they are broken because they believe it makes them easier to deal with. They've bred some really nice little ponies too


Yes i also know of a couple of studs who think the same and have spoken to them since starting this thread so will be considering their advice :)


Reg 15/6/2008
Posted 10:53pm, Sunday 4th July 
Bex+Molly
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There's two side to it tho, I know of a stud that swears by putiing it's Mares in foal before they are broken because they believe it makes them easier to deal with. They've bred some really nice little ponies too

Reg 3/7/2008
Posted 10:47pm, Sunday 4th July 
Lollie
RR Vice President (26559)
What age are you intending to back and start her? I personally wouldn't breed from a mare until ATLEAST 6 or 7... and you'll presumably want to back and start her before then?

To me the ideal situation would be to start her, get her strong and fit (which can only help with her pregnancy) and THEN breed from her - that way not only do you know that she's gonna be sane to ride, but you also know that her body will be more physically capable of carrying a foal. I've known several mare who've been a bit screwed physcologically by foaling at a young age.. I think that's actually part of Gho's messed up head - apparently she was bred from quite young and the foal died at a young age which hasn't helped her at all I don't believe.


Reg 5/1/2008
Posted 12:21am, Sunday 4th July 
S A R A H H :]
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oh I get ya :$

Reg 30/5/2009
Posted 10:38pm, Saturday 3rd July 
Charli-boi
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S A R A H H : wrote:

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Charli-boi wrote:


Proud SB Owner wrote:



Its up to the person who owns the horse whether they chose to breed from it or not.
She is papered with proven bloodlines and is the last filly from a now deceased stallion so she actually is valuable to breed from but thats not what i asked about. I simply asked what a good age is to start breeding a mare, not whether i should or not. Every mare is a maiden mare once upon a time and not every mare is award winning but no reason their offspring can't be.


tis a forum, used for stating my opinions.
and it is my opinion that you should not breed an unproven mare.
Your correct in you didn't ask and it  up to you.
But I just thought I'd state my opinion.


well I think thats silly.. Not everyone can afford to go buy something all flashy bred and -: Brownie :-. Most people dont want something all flash, I was quite happy with my pony outta the bush, are you saying that shouldnt be allowed??



nope but lets say I owned my old lease horse.
Good breeding.
Nice temperament.
Little long in the back but nice.
Perfect riding horse.

Now I wanted to breed nice riding horses out of her I would.
BUT.
This i after her being a great riding horse.
After she had proven herself.

all Im saying is, I dont agree with breeding un-ridden and untested horses.


Reg 16/8/2009
Posted 10:35pm, Saturday 3rd July 
S A R A H H :]
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Charli-boi wrote:


Proud SB Owner wrote:


Charli-boi wrote:

why breed a untested mare, you dont know what shes like, she could be nuts or not show much potential in anything, or she coukd be amazing in everything.

you dont know untill you try, why breed an unproven mare


Its up to the person who owns the horse whether they chose to breed from it or not.
She is papered with proven bloodlines and is the last filly from a now deceased stallion so she actually is valuable to breed from but thats not what i asked about. I simply asked what a good age is to start breeding a mare, not whether i should or not. Every mare is a maiden mare once upon a time and not every mare is award winning but no reason their offspring can't be.


tis a forum, used for stating my opinions.
and it is my opinion that you should not breed an unproven mare.
Your correct in you didn't ask and it  up to you.
But I just thought I'd state my opinion.


well I think thats silly.. Not everyone can afford to go buy something all flashy bred and -: Brownie :-. Most people dont want something all flash, I was quite happy with my pony outta the bush, are you saying that shouldnt be allowed??


Reg 30/5/2009
Posted 10:25pm, Saturday 3rd July 
Proud SB Owner
RR Governer (6133)
lol well if thats the case then theres alot of breeding going on that shouldnt be! funny thing is an unproven mare can be breed and her offspring can go onto be proven later on in life... if the mare was never breed from to produce that foal then it wouldnt be there to go out and become proven ;)
and thats cool, your entitled to your opinion but im entitled not to agree ;) thanks for your input tho!!


Reg 15/6/2008
Posted 10:21pm, Saturday 3rd July 
Charli-boi
RR Addict (2236)

Proud SB Owner wrote:


Charli-boi wrote:

why breed a untested mare, you dont know what shes like, she could be nuts or not show much potential in anything, or she coukd be amazing in everything.

you dont know untill you try, why breed an unproven mare


Its up to the person who owns the horse whether they chose to breed from it or not.
She is papered with proven bloodlines and is the last filly from a now deceased stallion so she actually is valuable to breed from but thats not what i asked about. I simply asked what a good age is to start breeding a mare, not whether i should or not. Every mare is a maiden mare once upon a time and not every mare is award winning but no reason their offspring can't be.


tis a forum, used for stating my opinions.
and it is my opinion that you should not breed an unproven mare.
Your correct in you didn't ask and it  up to you.
But I just thought I'd state my opinion.


Reg 16/8/2009
Posted 10:17pm, Saturday 3rd July 
Proud SB Owner
RR Governer (6133)

Charli-boi wrote:

why breed a untested mare, you dont know what shes like, she could be nuts or not show much potential in anything, or she coukd be amazing in everything.

you dont know untill you try, why breed an unproven mare


Its up to the person who owns the horse whether they chose to breed from it or not.
She is papered with proven bloodlines and is the last filly from a now deceased stallion so she actually is valuable to breed from but thats not what i asked about. I simply asked what a good age is to start breeding a mare, not whether i should or not. Every mare is a maiden mare once upon a time and not every mare is award winning but no reason their offspring can't be.


Reg 15/6/2008
Posted 10:10pm, Saturday 3rd July 
Lollie
RR Vice President (26559)

Charli-boi wrote:

why breed a untested mare, you dont know what shes like, she could be nuts or not show much potential in anything, or she coukd be amazing in everything.

you dont know untill you try, why breed an unproven mare

Mmmm I kinda agree with this. To me what's the point until she's been out and competed, and done well.


Reg 5/1/2008
Posted 10:46am, Friday 2nd July 
Charli-boi
RR Addict (2236)
why breed a untested mare, you dont know what shes like, she could be nuts or not show much potential in anything, or she coukd be amazing in everything.

you dont know untill you try, why breed an unproven mare


Reg 16/8/2009
Posted 2:49pm, Thursday 1st July 
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