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Lollie RR Vice President (26559) |
Volante wrote:
I am yet to find a calmer that actually works other than the vet stuff. Once adrenalin kicks in there isn't much that helps |
Yea, I have to agree with that. I've found calmers fine for clipping and that sort of thing but not a lot else.
As long as they've not deficient in magnesium or b vitamins they should be sweet, and if they're not it's more of a... not necesarily schooling, maybe conditioning thing? Like just getting them used to it and finding out what keeps them happy, as in having a small hard feed or having a friend or some sort of comfort? Like a friend uses clicker training to stop her horse from freaking in new situations 
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| Reg 5/1/2008 | | Posted 10:21pm, Wednesday 1st September | |
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Feet RR Addict (3348) | Tryptophan is also in Hanleys Formula...which is made up of amino acids (of which tryptophan is one...so definitely not swabbable.
It really is a case of trial and error.
Some people swear by "Relax" which is made up of mag, Bvits and tryptophan (did nothing for my boy)
Valerian works in a lot of cases (my guy went absolutely nutty balistic on it)
The James Hart products are very good, and I 'think' I had some kind of result using "Co-operate"....but he still found it hard to cope in some situations.
I've also tried Sedazine, but not sure that made much difference either.
Also, look at what you are feeding...some horses react to grass which increases their reactivity, or lucerne, or too much concentrate.
Another (vet only) is rakelin, which is VERY good....I have used it many years ago on a horse that totally lost the plot in a certain situation. It is an intramuscular injection, and once in their system, essentially takes away the stress and anxiety. I do recall one vet saying to me that it ought to be used more often for some types of training (not sure if I agree or not), but it definitely works!
With my guy we are just trying to get him out and about more, so that he can learn to deal with his insecurities. He is definitely improving...and I really do wish there were a 'magic' drug, but I suspect it is simply time, and training (and a big dash of patience)
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| Reg 24/9/2004 | | Posted 9:57pm, Wednesday 1st September | |
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Volante RR Addict (4796) | I am yet to find a calmer that actually works other than the vet stuff. Once adrenalin kicks in there isn't much that helps
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| Reg 23/9/2009 | | Posted 8:41pm, Wednesday 1st September | |
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PoshPony RR Addict (2648) |
Lythinae wrote:
Yup, that's it. Pretty sure it's not swabbable (it's not on the FEI database, anyway) ... tryptophan is fine, and it doesn't have valerian in it. |
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| Reg 25/1/2009 | | Posted 8:28pm, Wednesday 1st September | |
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Yup, that's it. Pretty sure it's not swabbable (it's not on the FEI database, anyway) ... tryptophan is fine, and it doesn't have valerian in it.
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PoshPony RR Addict (2648) | | Reg 25/1/2009 | | Posted 6:55pm, Wednesday 1st September | |
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PoshPony RR Addict (2648) |
Lythinae wrote:
PoshPony wrote:
Lythinae wrote:
Super calm (tryptophan) works really, really well. There's a powder for everyday use and a paste for on the day. Paste takes about 4 hours to kick in (which is the time frame they give, and from what I've seen). |
Where can i buy this and how much is it?? my boy needs some help, as he stresses when travelling |
I know AMS stocks it, tho I can't remember the price. Bluedude used it on her guy at his first few outings and it was really amazing to watch ... he went from spazing to really chilled right around the 4 hour point. |
Dunna what happened there: wow!! im def guna try it. Do its def not swabbable??
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| Reg 25/1/2009 | | Posted 6:53pm, Wednesday 1st September | |
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PoshPony RR Addict (2648) |
Lythinae wrote:
PoshPony wrote:
Lythinae wrote:
Super calm (tryptophan) works really, really well. There's a powder for everyday use and a paste for on the day. Paste takes about 4 hours to kick in (which is the time frame they give, and from what I've seen). |
wow!! im def guna try it. Do its def not swabbable??
Where can i buy this and how much is it?? my boy needs some help, as he stresses when travelling |
I know AMS stocks it, tho I can't remember the price. Bluedude used it on her guy at his first few outings and it was really amazing to watch ... he went from spazing to really chilled right around the 4 hour point. |
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| Reg 25/1/2009 | | Posted 6:52pm, Wednesday 1st September | |
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PoshPony wrote:
Lythinae wrote:
Super calm (tryptophan) works really, really well. There's a powder for everyday use and a paste for on the day. Paste takes about 4 hours to kick in (which is the time frame they give, and from what I've seen). |
Where can i buy this and how much is it?? my boy needs some help, as he stresses when travelling |
I know AMS stocks it, tho I can't remember the price. Bluedude used it on her guy at his first few outings and it was really amazing to watch ... he went from spazing to really chilled right around the 4 hour point.
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Rebekah Mod RR Governer (9953) | If not for a competition, I'd go with valerian.
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| Reg 30/7/2007 | | Posted 9:06pm, Tuesday 31st August | |
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PoshPony RR Addict (2648) |
Lythinae wrote:
Super calm (tryptophan) works really, really well. There's a powder for everyday use and a paste for on the day. Paste takes about 4 hours to kick in (which is the time frame they give, and from what I've seen). |
Where can i buy this and how much is it?? my boy needs some help, as he stresses when travelling
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| Reg 25/1/2009 | | Posted 7:35pm, Tuesday 31st August | |
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Bilbo1 RR Governer (6682) | I use the James Hart Equiceuticals - Valerian Calm - seems to work very well
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| Reg 9/5/2009 | | Posted 9:18am, Tuesday 31st August | |
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crystal=] RR Vice President (26770) | | Reg 14/12/2007 | | Posted 8:24am, Tuesday 31st August | |
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BLING wrote:
dumb question. . is tryptophan swabbable?? |
Nope.
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BLING RR Governer (5181) | dumb question. . is tryptophan swabbable??
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| Reg 29/3/2008 | | Posted 8:16pm, Monday 30th August | |
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| Mag will only work if he actually deficient (which isn't as likely if it's an away from home type thing).
Super calm (tryptophan) works really, really well. There's a powder for everyday use and a paste for on the day. Paste takes about 4 hours to kick in (which is the time frame they give, and from what I've seen).
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macca2010 RR Citizen (680) | What actually works on stressed horses? (TB in particular) need something to get his stress levels down when in new situations untill he get used to getting out and about again after being a paddock ornament. Not naughty or dirty just gets himself in a bit of a tizz? There are so many on the market its hard to know, his mag levels are within limits so not wanting to give a heap of mag. Herbal etc?
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| Reg 30/4/2010 | | Posted 8:10pm, Monday 30th August | |
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