-shakara RR Addict (3160) | is this what you mean?
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| Reg 5/10/2009 | | Posted 9:05pm, Friday 1st October | |
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bananatim Executive Jockey (348) | pretty sure twisted snaffles arnt allowed in dressage though?
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| Reg 10/3/2009 | | Posted 8:05pm, Friday 1st October | |
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alicat92 Super Jockey (138) |
bananatim wrote:
it may not work for evryone, but personally i would rather be able to stop/have good controll in a harsh bit (say a twisted snaffle for eg) than pull my horses teeth out, and my arms for that matter in a snaffle. it better for both horse and rider to only have to apply slight pressure in a harsh bit and get the result than it is to HAUL on their mouth in a "kind" bit, i ride my horse in this out hunting for example
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We got given that bit when we bought out g.p. pony.
The twisted snaffle (not the thin wire as shown in a previously suggested trademe link) allows me to get my horse to listen instantly with light contact. My instructor has seen great improvement and is thrilled with his performance. With the gags, any more pressure to his poll would cause further problems with the fact that he tucks his head (gags apply pressure to the poll either causing extreme bending or extreme head raising. Since my horse has a tendency to overbend, i think it is obvious which way he is going to go. Also, a chambon is also going to follow the same path.
The twisted snaffle is legal in show hunter and dressage due it simply being a slightly harsher snaffle. It applies a different pressure which the horse responds to which is why dressage and flatwork it is recommended to use a different bit so that the difference doesn't become normal. This coming from a National Selector, I will believe her.
We have seen great improvement from the few outings we have had so far and my control ability is exceptional. Like bananatim, I would rather have respect from a slightly harsher bit than damage my poor horses mouth from trying to pull him up in a snaffle - I've tried, it didn't work, this bit has.
The slow twists - not even a full twist for one half of the bit - doesn't cut into the horses mouth, it applies a more interesting and varied pressure especially when the horse mouths the bit.
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| Reg 12/7/2009 | | Posted 11:50pm, Monday 27th September | |
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bananatim Executive Jockey (348) | it may not work for evryone, but personally i would rather be able to stop/have good controll in a harsh bit (say a twisted snaffle for eg) than pull my horses teeth out, and my arms for that matter in a snaffle. it better for both horse and rider to only have to apply slight pressure in a harsh bit and get the result than it is to HAUL on their mouth in a "kind" bit, i ride my horse in this out hunting for example
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| Reg 10/3/2009 | | Posted 4:31pm, Sunday 19th September | |
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Mystic Rhythm RR Vice President (13350) | .. athough she changed it , ts just not the same .
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| Reg 17/10/2007 | | Posted 2:44pm, Friday 17th September | |
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Mystic Rhythm RR Vice President (13350) |
Charli-boi wrote:
pepee_rox wrote:
aren't they like, illegal?  |
They should be there extremly harsh, I would deff try a pelham or gag first. |
t=yer i wouldnt use it a friend had one . the pony seems to suffer still ....
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| Reg 17/10/2007 | | Posted 2:44pm, Friday 17th September | |
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Charli-boi RR Addict (2236) |
alicat92 wrote:
A bit is only harsh if you pull on it, if there is a lack of communication (particularly while jumping) it is safer to have something that works than something that doesn't. When you have a horse that drops his head, gags are recommended. |
this bit is harsh alround because of the tist in it, any contact 'cuts&digs"
horrible, have you tried a pelham?
Gags are good for leaners, they can cause a head raising effect on some horses, try lunging your horse in a chambon, it gets them light and teaches that bit pressure means head down not up
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| Reg 16/8/2009 | | Posted 8:28pm, Wednesday 15th September | |
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bananatim Executive Jockey (348) | | Reg 10/3/2009 | | Posted 7:44pm, Wednesday 15th September | |
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alicat92 Super Jockey (138) | A bit is only harsh if you pull on it, if there is a lack of communication (particularly while jumping) it is safer to have something that works than something that doesn't. When you have a horse that drops his head, gags are recommended.
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| Reg 12/7/2009 | | Posted 6:40pm, Wednesday 15th September | |
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Charli-boi RR Addict (2236) |
pepee_rox wrote:
aren't they like, illegal? |
They should be there extremly harsh, I would deff try a pelham or gag first.
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| Reg 16/8/2009 | | Posted 7:44pm, Tuesday 14th September | |
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Brandy RR Addict (2940) | Summit grains has them to the best of my knowledge 
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| Reg 6/5/2008 | | Posted 6:52pm, Tuesday 14th September | |
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pepee_rox RR Vice President (13329) | i think tack shop has them 
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| Reg 21/6/2008 | | Posted 6:35pm, Tuesday 14th September | |
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pepee_rox RR Vice President (13329) | aren't they like, illegal?
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| Reg 21/6/2008 | | Posted 6:34pm, Tuesday 14th September | |
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Lollie RR Vice President (26563) |
alicat92 wrote:
Do most stores order in desired bits? |
Yea
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| Reg 5/1/2008 | | Posted 12:10pm, Tuesday 14th September | |
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alicat92 Super Jockey (138) | Do most stores order in desired bits?
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| Reg 12/7/2009 | | Posted 11:54am, Tuesday 14th September | |
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alicat92 Super Jockey (138) |
CessBee wrote:
I have an old one, it is rather old and was once brass coloured... i think.
You sure you need something as uncomfortable as that? |
Is it still in functioning condition? How much would you sell it for?
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| Reg 12/7/2009 | | Posted 9:19pm, Friday 3rd September | |
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alicat92 Super Jockey (138) |
StarSign wrote:
yup i saw them in summit grains and saddlery in cambridge today. |
Not just the wire ones? That seems to be the one that most people stock?
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| Reg 12/7/2009 | | Posted 9:18pm, Friday 3rd September | |
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alicat92 Super Jockey (138) | My instructor suggested it, he speeds and makes it very unsafe. Can't pull him up but this bit he listened immediately.
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| Reg 12/7/2009 | | Posted 9:17pm, Friday 3rd September | |
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StarSign RR Addict (2804) | yup i saw them in summit grains and saddlery in cambridge today.
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| Reg 19/1/2009 | | Posted 7:28pm, Friday 3rd September | |
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Charli-boi RR Addict (2236) | and back to you of course, now back to post topic.
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| Reg 16/8/2009 | | Posted 10:53am, Thursday 2nd September | |
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