rider1803 RR Citizen (880) | Start with poles - you mention he jumps them so i would begin in a walk over a single pole until he can walk calmly over it with no rushing, then trot and so on into canter and then raise the pole a tiny amount, unfortunately there is no quick fix here, you need to be calm and consistent and go back to the beginning, he may come along quickly but expect a long road, the end result will be worth it - he is obviously a nice jumper. Each time be beginns to rush go back either drop the pace or the height and reinforce the calm slow philosophy.
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| Reg 15/8/2010 | | Posted 2:04pm, Wednesday 20th October | |
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DresageRida wrote:
jus bolts for the jump a few strides before it. he is easy to bring back straight afterwards, but almost acts confused when you ask him to do so. |
Rushing can be a fear related thing (as in a get it over with quickly thing), but not always. Could be that a previous rider 'chased' (to much leg ect) him at fences, so he's learned that that's how it's done. Or that someone has been to fidget-y with their hands, or really hung on and suddenly let go
I'd go back to poles. Makes sure your hands, seat and leg are quite and work on maintaining a nice, relaxed rhythm. When he's going over poles happily, move to small crosses, making sure that you stay quiet and soft and maintaining rhythm.
Assuming, of course, saddle/teeth/back ect have been checked and it's not a pain response.
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crystal=] RR Vice President (26774) |
Atlas wrote:
Just becvare if you do halt him before the jumps because he might just get the habit of stopping at each jump at a certain point. |
if the horse is well trained enough they won't stop unless told to - but its great because they will listen to you constantly.
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| Reg 14/12/2007 | | Posted 9:53am, Sunday 17th October | |
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Atlas RR Citizen (861) | Just becvare if you do halt him before the jumps because he might just get the habit of stopping at each jump at a certain point.
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| Reg 18/11/2009 | | Posted 11:02am, Thursday 14th October | |
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S A R A H H :] RR Vice President (10021) |
DresageRida wrote:
any tips or exercises for a horse that is extremely calm 2 ride untill u start jumping. I was told before i bought him he was scared of jumping...i dont believe this to be the case. hes not a bad jumper, always has his ears pricked, jus bolts for the jump a few strides before it. he is easy to bring back straight afterwards, but almost acts confused when you ask him to do so. I think this is a trait he picked up from previous riders?
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sounds similar to my pony that I had, she was used to being beaten if she didnt jump, or even when she did jump so being a 'flight' animal, her answer was to run! So I basically had to make sure every time I jumped her it was a good experience, just little jumps and big pats everytime she jumped (I now praise any horse I ride, when it jumps-out of habit  )
Also doing a few jumping session a week (only a max of 5jumps per session) definitely helped to re-inforce to her that it wasnt scary 
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| Reg 30/5/2009 | | Posted 11:25pm, Wednesday 13th October | |
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poniechic RR Addict (1657) | my horse use to race into jumps but she would be excited for the whole time the best thing i did was grid work for about a week nothing else then i did a normal jump and when she raced we would go back to grids. worked like a dream would start off low so the horse can think about what its doin as she raced thru them the first time and jumped 2 at the same time!! haha
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| Reg 12/12/2009 | | Posted 12:22pm, Wednesday 13th October | |
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crystal=] RR Vice President (26774) | start back at the basics with poles on the ground
charm used to do this when we were jumping - i stopped it by making her stop a few strides out of the jump and then halting after 3-4 strides after the jump (but in a straight line)
this kept her listening before, during and after the jump cos she was always waiting for the halt - works great
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| Reg 14/12/2007 | | Posted 8:07pm, Wednesday 1st September | |
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Lollie RR Vice President (26563) | Based on the videos I saw when we went and viewed him, and you not being overly confident (and neither am I or I'd offer to get on him) that putting up a jumping lane and putting him through a grid so he has to slow down and settle and has no rider to make him nervous or push him too hard (coz it looked like it was rider that could have been the initial cause and it's now just a habit) and give him a chance to sort himself out. If you wanted to I could come out tomorrow if I have time and we could set up some trot poles and just put him through over and over until he gets bored are realises that jumping them is pointless, then up them to crosses and change them around heaps so he has to set himself up well and THINK about it.
Or try the game I did with Ghost? Three small crosses right beside each other and number them and then I'll call out a number and you just point him straight at it and go BAM BAM BAM so he's thinking about where he's putting his feet and turning and not focusing on the jumps? That probably makes no sense to read but I think you were there the day I did this with Ghost and Zoe?
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| Reg 5/1/2008 | | Posted 7:42pm, Wednesday 1st September | |
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DresageRida Intermediate Jockey (43) | thanks guys, have been schooling around jumps, this is a horse that wil jump trotting poles. he doesnt stop, he really does seem to enjoy it.
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| Reg 3/3/2010 | | Posted 6:42pm, Wednesday 1st September | |
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| Do big circles around the jump calmly then jump every couple of circles, but keep doing the circles (if that makes sense) I had an arab pony who was the same there was no way she was scared she just LOVED jumping. My instructor lifted the jump pole above his head thinking she would stop.... She didn't and flew right over it.
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alicat92 Super Jockey (138) | And work with dressage around the jumps so that you are getting close to the fence without jumping so that he doesn't expect anything when he gets to the fence. Also make sure that you aren't applying pressure when he gets to this area. Ensure that you aren't moving your weight too far forward when he is jumping or the change in weight may cause him to become unbalanced and need to run to regain balance which sounds as though it could be the case considering he is easy to come back straight afterwards (after regaining balance)
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| Reg 12/7/2009 | | Posted 10:26am, Wednesday 1st September | |
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alicat92 Super Jockey (138) | Try lowering the fences and just trot over them. Important to ensure that he maintains the trot afterwards to show he doesn't have to run from them. Then slowly build into canter. Start from even a simple pole on the ground and build up until he gains confidence.
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| Reg 12/7/2009 | | Posted 10:24am, Wednesday 1st September | |
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Twiggles RR Governer (7897) | probably means hes scared..a horse going properly should not have to go fast into jumps to clear them, plus its dangerous. make him halt in front of jumps, at the spot where he starts to bolt. when hes doing that ok, go to halt but then dont and see if he waits more
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| Reg 12/9/2007 | | Posted 9:36am, Wednesday 1st September | |
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DresageRida Intermediate Jockey (43) | any tips or exercises for a horse that is extremely calm 2 ride untill u start jumping. I was told before i bought him he was scared of jumping...i dont believe this to be the case. hes not a bad jumper, always has his ears pricked, jus bolts for the jump a few strides before it. he is easy to bring back straight afterwards, but almost acts confused when you ask him to do so. I think this is a trait he picked up from previous riders?
Thanks
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| Reg 3/3/2010 | | Posted 9:15am, Wednesday 1st September | |
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